Thursday, February 21, 2008

Big Girl Panties needed for this conversation.....


I found this on an OT post today. Have we really become that sensitive that we have to post this? Are we doing it out of courtesy? Don't you think an occasional post about a child in a passing sentence is ok? Do we really have to warn the entire world?

I can understand someone flaunting their new pregnancy. (Which we all know has happened) and and I can also understand how an entire thread devoted to kids is off limits, but isn't this a bit much?

22 comments:

OVADUE said...

I think this was brought over from Ovusoft.......I have noticed that there is the:

"Death mentioned"
"Child mentioned"

Guess there are women that rip out their hair and jump off a building at the mere mention of death or a child. Oh and don't even open a post with [death of child mentioned[ Those are totally only for the most mentally stable.

Just like the USA today, pc shit has ruined it. Get your big girl panties on already or don't open the fucking post.

KarenMM said...

Warnings like that make me want to read it to see if it belongs in OT or not.

But on a note, I think people are doing it be cautious to not get reported for the post being in the wrong place.

I don't know... just a guess.

Chantelle said...

Yes, it's silly.

Mrsjar said...

The sad part, it is needed anymore on OT. There are a few woman who are report happy. I have seen threads get closed just mentioning a child in a reply. Even the OP of this thread hinted she was worried to express her concerns and mentioning her children in fear of offending someone.

Where do we draw that invisiable line? What offends one, another wouldn't bat an eye at and vice versa.
I personally don't see any harm in mentioning dc. When I say that, then I get jumped on by someone who is childless and thinks I'm trying to be insensitive to their needs. That is why that sentence was posted in a response so not to come off as insensitive. When someone finds the answer to how to be politically correct in a response, drop me a PM and let me know.... :)

Cathy A said...

I completely understand why the poster put that message. It really has gotten THAT out of hand in OT. Even the slightest mention of a child - even in passing - now gets reported, moved, closed or disappears. Period. I've seen it happen.

Personally, I think it is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. It's like they really are trying to separate us who have children from those who do not yet have children.

I'm not sure if it is all FF's doing - or if some of the women on OT have just become that thin skinned - maybe it is a combination of both. I dunno.

Either way, it's really REALLY sad.

sasafrass97 said...

I too think that it's gotten out of hand. Some women get pissed off at the mere mention of a child. Yes, some posts are child centered and shouldn't be on OT and that's fine, but, to have to put a disclaimer up that there's a whole two words about a child is pc run amok,imho.

Plant Girl said...

I agree that it is sad that women need to add warnings of sorts. But OT has changed so much that it is necessary. What do you do?

Unknown said...

I noticed that too, and my first thought was that I had never known that the poster HAD kids--she's been so circumspect on OT.

But yes, it is necessary. I don't think it is FF--I think it is the CONSTANT reports, like when antsmarching got reported for her Shriner's Hospital blinkie--it contained the dreaded words, "for children". GMAFB.

It has gotten so ridiculous that I haven't shown my siggy--with pictures of my children--on OT for about 2 years now even though some women do.

Idiotic posts about the best brand of diapers or something like that do NOT belong on OT and should be moved. But the mere mention of a child...ok, ladies, get a fucking grip. You are on FF because you WANT children, correct? Yes, TTC sucks and IF sucks even more. BTDT.

That said, I can understand why OT should be child-free. And IMO women who flaunt their pregnancies on OT are just being cruel. Go rejoice on the TTC board for your age group or the preg side. Take out a banner ad in your local paper. But don't shove it in the faces of those still trying.

OT used to be so wide-open--remember, Gina?? LOL. It was FUN. Now it is dull as dishwater bc everybody is tippy-toeing around, terrified that the reporting fiends will get them.

Mrsjar said...

Since we all have our Big Girl Panties on, is it bad when I have a pic of my children on my siggy when posting on OT? What about when someone post a BFP on their chart and you start a thread on WTT congratulating them? The pics were of my children that would be considered normal size. Both incidences I was reported because, "I was insensitive to those struggling TTC".

I get reported alot, even when I'm not trying to piss someone off. So that is why when I responded to her post I put in the disclaimer that a child/pregnancy was being mentioned.

Do I think it's ridiculous, yes!
Can I change it, no....

Anonymous said...

I went through 3.5 years of IF before I got pregnant and it never bothered me if children were mentioned. If it about children and obviously in the wrong place, it still didn't really bother me. Some people are just very sensitive, I guess. But I never understood the report happy women on there...

Lisa said...

I also have problems wtih fertility, but eventually we did find the one good egg. Since then, I've lost another one, so there is never a guarantee that my troubles are over. The pain is different than those that have never had a child, but it is still there. I'm going to go out on a limb though and say that I think my pain is less than some others feel because it is cushioned by my child that lives.

Because I want to be sensitive, I try not to mention my child except in the very vaguest of ways, and only when relevant to the subject at hand on OT. I am just trying to be kind by avoiding bringing her up on OT.

I do think that to some extent it has gotten out of hand with even the lightest mention of the "C" word or the "B" word or the "P" word getting reported, but then again, who am I to say what hurts or not when I've never been there. That is just my take on it.

Just like my take is that if children/babies/pregnancy should never be mentioned EVER EVER EVER, then there should be something warning of that on the board listing so everyone knows what the limits are. There is not, so there should be some flexibility along with some sensitivity.

I think (as PPs have stated) that as long as posters are not flaunting their B/C/or P, and as long as the topic is truly OT, that it should be fine if B/C/or P happen to come up. But, I can see that others have a different opinion, so I just try to respect that since I have not walked in their shoes. However, to pretend that B/C/and P are not part of any of our lives is just being unrealiztic and severely limits the dialogue on OT.

Penetangjudy said...

I'm sorry but it is nuts.

We all know what children are and some of us even have some. I personally think it is the most absurd thing EVER!!!!!!

People need to get a grip or get the f*uck out.

Sorry.

Steph said...

I think it is completely out of hand. There are too many report-happy people on all sides and it has gotten ridiculous.
Of course I don't want to see OT turn into a kid discussion and have it all be parent/baby/child centered, but the occasional post should not be a problem. However, it does have to be black and white. The minute you start letting a couple threads slide, then they all turn that way.

I do hate the fact that to ask a question about my little brother I have to post it in the Mom's OT. I am not a mom and therefore don't go to the pg side, so having to post my inquiry over there seems stupid.

Mrsjar said...

It's THURSDAY! where is the FOTW nominee?

Fertility Friend Drama said...

No worries.. its coming! Oh and by the way, its called the FRIDAY fucktard. It's still Thursday, Mrs. Jar!

Mrsjar said...

I know it's FRIDAY'S, but I was bored *blushing* and impatient. ;)

Fertility Friend Drama said...

Dont worry Mrs Jar... I've got everything set up and ready to go. I'll post it within the next few hours... :) I think it's a good one, too!

Mrsjar said...

As long as it's not one of my post, LOL. SERIOUSLY!!

Fertility Friend Drama said...

SHIT!! There goes the Friday Fucktard. WTF??






Just kidding Shari, It's not you THIS time!

Mrsjar said...

OMG!! I about shit my pants when I started reading!!!

LOL.... you got me :)

Andrea said...

I think the reporting has gotten way out of hand. I can't speak for the last two months since I'm not there anymore, but even when I was there, I was always being reported for SOMETHING. And I never mentioned kids. I can only imagine the reporting that goes on for mentioning kids.

I don't think siggies with kids, pg, whatever should be offensive. If you don't like it, block that person's siggy.

As far as mentioning kids on OT, I have gotten annoyed at some posters and asked them to post on the mom's side. But I never reported anyone for it. If I asked them to move it, and the thread went on and on, I just didn't go back to it. No biggie.

Ppl need to grow up. From what I've heard, OT sucks nowadays.

Annie said...

I thought the "child mentioned" or "pregnancy mentioned" stuff was like a courtesy.
I dont know about others, but there are some days that I feel like I cant get away from the whole world reminding me Im not pregnant, and I kind of think its nice to see that little disclaimer in the topic so that if Im having an on-the-verge-of-breaking-down day, I can avoid the topic altogether.

I didnt really see it as PC or ridiculous, just a courtesy because of who could be reading, kwim?

Thats just my point of view on it. Maybe Im missing something.